Of the OpenAI and all the connections. Tyler, you were late here last night. You didn't leave last night. You were here all night. Kind of an all nighter. Yeah, I was. Basically the goal was try to, you know, I want to explain kind of in an easy, simple way, like how to think about OpenAI. Broadly. Oh, yeah. How to think about people who are influencing it. I think you nailed it in as clear of a way as possible. I think you nailed it. Okay, so who do we have here at the center? Yeah, so I think it's obviously best to start here. Yes. This is right here in the middle. OpenAI. Okay, so obviously, Sam Altman. OpenAI. This is the core. Yes. So every line of string here is a real connection, Correct? Yeah. Okay, take us through some of it. Yeah. So we can see over here. These are some of kind of the main deals. So we have Larry Ellison, Oracle. Yes. We have Microsoft. $300 billion plan to build data centers. And then Broadcom is obviously doing chips, custom chips for OpenAI. Now SoftBank is bankrolling some of it with Stargate. Microsoft has the. What's the connection between Jony I've. And growing Daniel? Okay, so this is actually double. So this is. Most people on Twitter, they see this picture. They think Growing Daniel, But I mean, that's. It's actually Steve Jobs. That's Steve Jobs. Yeah, Steve Jobs. So it's really double. Okay, so you see. Yeah, this is pretty good. I want to talk about this. So we have Mark Andreessen. Yes. You know, famous kind of interplay between Growing Daniel and Mark Andreessen. But also, you know, with Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs and Jony. I've. Okay, got it. And then saying this goes deeper than. It goes really deep here. How deep does it go? Let's find out. Okay, so then let's just keep moving. So let's go to some investors, please. So we can go from OpenAI. Let's see. Josh Kushner. Josh Kushner, of course. Okay. But who's Josh Kushner's brother? Jared. Where's Jared? First Trump administration. Okay. Yes. Okay. Now we're in politics. Let's go down pt Right. You can see a lot of strings coming out of here. This is a core player. Core player. So, I mean, there's so many directions we can go here. But let's go to Delian, Right? Yes, Delian. Where does Delian work? Founders fund. Who is. Yes, it's obvious. Okay. Yes, it's obvious. You're putting it together. Okay. Delian's first company yes. Varda. No. Oh, First Company. It's First Company. YC Company. Oh, yeah, it was a YC company. That's right. What was another YC company? Alexander Wang. Oh, wait, Scala was a YC company. Okay, where does Alex work now? Where does he work? Mark Zuckerberg. Yeah. Okay. Nat Friedman. They work together. Msl. Okay, it's so clear. Who did Nat Friedman sponsor? Who? Luke Fairtor. Oh, Fairtor. And where does he work? Doge. Elon. Elon. It's all connected. And who did Elon start a company with? Pt. It goes back. Okay, okay. So. So will Manitis. Willmanitis connected? This is just a joke. He's not actually involved. Right. Well, Womanitis was a. What kind of fellow? Oh, a teal fellow. Right. This does pretty deep. So. And then we can go from Womanitis. He's obviously, you know, very popular on X. Yes. This is another kind of. Well, at some point there were too many strings. I didn't want to cover too much. Yes. But there's a lot of connections here. Obviously. We can go down to Dwarkesh. Okay. So he's kind of another superpower, super connected. He's interviewed most of these folks. So let's go from Dwarkesh to Gwern. Right. Okay. Yes. Gwern, obviously connected. Scaling hypothesis. Very influential on Ilya. Yes. This obviously goes back to OpenAI. Yes. It also goes to Karpathy. Yes. One of the co founders of OpenAI. Yes. Also Tesla Autopilot. Yes. Back to Elon. Okay. Okay, let's go to this side of the board here. Yes. Who we got? So let's. How is. How is Scarlett Johansson involved? Yeah, so. So there's a couple ways she's involved. So obviously the first one, she was in her. Right. Movie. Yes, yes. Famously, when OpenAI voice mode was coming out, they wanted to do her voice because, you know, that's like the movie. And then she was maybe suing. And was it Sam or the official OpenAI account that just tweeted her? And that was. I believe it was Sam. Yes. And. And, and it was unclear if the licensing was proper at that point. So there's maybe some backlash, maybe some. Some. Some legal. Yeah. So letters traded. Who else was in her? Who else was in her? Phoenix. Yes. Joaquin Phoenix. He was also the Joker. This is not related to other things. Yes, but. Okay, we're getting Joker fied. Yeah. So let's go back to ScarJo. In a fast takeoff, we all become Joker Fi. So she was in a movie with another actor. Yes. Who? Joseph Gordon. Levitt what movie? Don John, I believe it's called. That's right. Don John. Yes. Okay, so. So who is Joseph Gordon Levitt? It's going deeper than. Whoa. This does go deeper than. Joseph Gordon Levitt's wife was previously a board member of OpenAI during the ousting. That's true. Took Sam Altman out. Wow. It's all obvious. How can you not see this? It's so clear now. Okay, so. So now we're in kind of this. Yes. You know, effective altruist safety. Yes. This is all connected here, obviously, to. It gets really jam. Adam d'. Angelo. Yeah. Because we can go from here to EA and then to Eliezer. Eliezer, of course. Right. And here's, you know. Yes. Eliezer's first organization, Miri Machine Intelligence Research Institute. Yes. That was, I believe, early on, funded by pt. Okay, how is Eliezer connected to Grimes? Is that Grimes on. Well. Okay, do you not remember this famous picture between Grimes, Eleazar and Sam? Oh, I do remember this. Yes. Good sound cue. I completely forgot that image. That is. That. That is lore. Yeah. Okay, so then Eliezer, very influential on this famous book about safety. Super Intelligence by Nick Bostrom. Okay, Bostrom. Yes. He is kind of this online philosopher, almost part of the blogosphere a little bit. And connected to Scott Alexander. Right. Who was on Door Kesha's podcast. Yeah, he was AI 2027. Part of that crew. Right. Or Lucy. No, he. He was a commentator on. Oh, I guess he. I think he was actually an advisor. Yeah. If he was a co author. But he was involved. He's implicated. He's. It's never been clearer that there's a connection. So let's go. Okay. Let's go back to our cash from here. He was on the podcast. Yes. How did Will catch. Catch a red string Just from being a poster on ax. Oh, he also works at Open. He was just through. Oh, Will. Oh, Will the Q. Oh, well, he's obvious. Y. I mean, he's at xai. He. You know. No, no, he's. He's on x. He's at OpenAI. Right. Yes. Yes. Okay. Things mixed up here. Got it. Okay. But. Okay, we're at Dwarkesh. Yes. At Dwar. Cash. Back to Dwarakash. Yes. An early guest of Rajkesh was Tyler Cowan. Okay. Now, Tyler Cowan runs the Progress Studies Institute. Yes, that's right. I think that's what it's called with Patrick Kallson. Whoa, this does go deep now. Patrick Collison, famous for being Irish. Yeah. Oh, and we're getting here. This is linked with a lot of, you know. Yes. Who else is Irish? Irish cabal. Some kind of thing. Conspiracy. Yeah. Willow, Bryan. We see Jordy John. Yeah, we were see Joe Lonsdale, I believe. Oh, he's Irish. No, I believe that's true. Fact check that. I have no idea. I think that's true. But I mean, the main connection here is Ireland to the Illuminati. The Illuminati are Irish. Why are they Irish? Well, it's just, you know, general conspiracy. And then here we get a little off the rails. You see, George Soros and Fauci connected with the Illuminati as well. Okay, you're saying we're one degree away. Yeah. We're not beating the allegations here, but. Let'S stick with Illuminati. Let's go up to Brian Johnson. Right. Okay. How is he connected to all this? Well, there's some sense rumors about, you know, blood of children, maybe transfusion or something. But really, Brian Johnson is part of this kind of health movement. Yes. So who else is part of that? Obviously, Andrew Huberman. Yes, Andrew Huberman, of course. And so he's a, you know, health influencer. Now you're kind of in the category of just experts, broadly. Yeah. That takes you over to Joe Rogan. Yes, obviously, because, you know, he's a health influencer, but really, he's a podcaster at heart. Yes. So now we're in this kind of manosphere. We see Theo Von, who's obviously connected in many ways to Alexander Wang, to Zuck, to Sam the Ovon's, really. I mean, he could potentially be at the center of this whole thing. Yeah, for sure. Potentially. I mean, given how many. Really in the past year, he's become kind of a tech power player. That's the point of all this red string. You have to see who has the most connections. Moss has got two TBPN has like 12. And I see Raw Milk up in the left corner. You're kind of dancing around that. Are you afraid to talk about Rob? How's Robustin Mayer? So we're at Joe Rogan. Let's go back to Andrew Humerman. Okay. Another kind of person in the health, you know, area. Justin Mares. Yes, I believe. Former guest. He is a fan of raw milk. He's a fan of raw milk. Certainly is. But then we see the second string here. Let's just follow this down. How does Raw milk. Oh, Jordy. Implicated, not beating the raw milk allegations. Okay, but then Cuban. Cuban was. Cuban. Was anti. Yeah, but he's not on the. He didn't make the board. He didn't make the board because he's not implicated. He would have made the board. I think the next iteration is 3D. What's going on with Larry up there in the center? Yeah. So Larry. What is he connected to? Larry's implicated in a lot of ways. So let's just implicate. So we're in this kind of, you know, podcasting space. Obviously. David Senra. Yes. James Dyson. James Dyson, latest episode. Look, I mean, this is a very pure. That's the most pure placement on the board, right? Yes. Hanging out on his own. Just connected to Senra, at least. Connected to. Yeah. Oh, yeah. James Dyson's just in his lane. Just hanging out in Founders podcast. Exactly. But. But let's go from. From Senra to Larry Ellison. Right. There's been, I think, three episodes. Three episodes, yeah. On Larry Ellison. Yeah. Larry Ellison is also in a lot of ways to Sam because of the, you know, the deal. But also to Elon. Right. This famous. He wrote a billion dollar check. Yeah, yeah. I think I recommend 2 billion. But whatever you think, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Help fund the buyout. I see Rahul Sunwalker on there. Exactly. Yeah. So Rahul is kind of an interesting person here. So he's connected to growing Daniel, obviously, because they did this famous stunt. Yes. His company is in yc. Yes. Which again, I think we covered YC before, but obviously Sam. Yeah, it all adds up now. Yeah, it's pretty obvious there, Delian. YC YC is also. I mean, there's not a lot of strings here, but you can, you could, you know, pull a lot of strings. Yeah. Just from yc. Now take me through the chessboard. What's going on over there? Yeah, yeah. So let's go. Let's just start with PT Again. Right. So famous chess player. It all comes back. Famous chess player. Yes. So obviously connection there. David Sacks also. Oh, yeah, they played chess together. Yeah. There's that famous image where Sacks is beating him. Yes. And then, yeah, we see from chess, we see two other famous chess players. Yes. Botez sisters and Magnus Carlsen. Clearly they were. I believe they were speaking at the all in Summit. Well, they were. I don't know about this most recent one, but in the past, they certainly. Have Puzzle pieces are starting to fit together. Yeah. So. So chess is. Is. Is a board game. Right. What's another board game? Go Lee Sea Dole. Yes. Okay. Whoa. Famous. Let me, Let me go over here also. Cigarette smoker. Exactly. Yeah. Lisa, do go to smoke during the. The famous DeepMind AlphaGo. It's happened. Yeah, I remember. So. So then obviously Dennis. Yep. DeepMind. Then we see the rest of the Google team here. We see Eric Schmidt again connects to pt. Okay. And you know their famous debate. Yes. You know. Is that Will Brown. Will Brown, how is he? So Will Brown is. I think you're letting him off easy here. Will Brown is teal backed. Okay. Yes. Prime intellect. Prime intellect, of course. Also frequent engager reply guy with reply guy. That'll get you on the board these days if you're a reply guy in the room. Yeah. If you're going back and forth, Rune, you're on the board. There's also a lot of strings coming out up here. He has his hands in a lot of places. Yes. Fingers in a lot of pies. Exactly. Donald Boat. Yeah. How's Donald Boat Linked. Yeah. So Donald Boat was also one that I could have had a lot more strings coming from. But the main one, I mean, Donald Boat's real recent rise to fame was asking Sam for a gpu, which was sent. And he also just offered Sam some rice. I think he's. Oh, really? I didn't hear about that. About 600 pounds of rice. On some online arbitrage. And he was offering it up. Symbolism will be his downfall, potentially. Let's figure it out. And then obviously Will was also heavily catered in these kind of Donald Boat sagas. Yes. I believe he sent him a CPU case. Yeah, I think, I mean those are, I would say those are mostly the broad strokes. I think you're close to figuring it out. I think it's pretty clear now. I think I understand. Yeah. So that's kind of like if you want to think about OpenAI in like an easy way, like who's kind of, who's kind of, you know, making a lot of the decisions. How are they being influenced if they're not making the direct decisions? I would say this is kind of a good picture. It's a good place to start who the players are. Masa. You didn't cover Masa. But he's sitting, you know, sort of quietly confident, you know. Yeah. Not totally in his own lane, but. Not, you know, so he's the connection between Sam Altman and Donald Trump on Stargate because he was, he was announcing the Stargate project. Obviously Trump is linked to a lot of these people, like Sergey David Sacks, just because of the recent dinner. Oh, yes, they had dinner together. That merits some string. Here's the Sheik of uae. Okay. I think there is some Stargate development. Stargate? Uae? Uae? Yeah, they're working on it. Well, thank you for taking us through it at all. It's pretty crystal clear to me. Jordy, what do you think? I mean. Yeah, I mean, it's surprised it took people this long. Kind of crack the code. Yep. Yep. It's all been. It's all been out there in the open. Yeah. Symbol is be there down. Pretty. Pretty easy. Pretty easy to figure out. Well, thank you for the hard work, Tyler. Well done. Well done. 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