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Data center movement here. Oh, even more of a catalyst. That's a tinfoil hat. Considered the data center. It's not a tinfoil hat, it's a blue hair conspiracy. Sure, sure. As you'll see me protesting outside of a data center. Maybe. Maybe put them in space. Yeah, you gotta, you gotta go boots. People will be protesting that in due time, don't you worry. But on the launch vehicle, what dials are you turning in terms of the amount of mass to orbit or the size of the vehicle? The fuel. How do you to develop something that's different or do you just want to have a secondary option that's as close to the sort of standard interoperable market, standard launch vehicle, or do you want something that fulfills a specifically different role and fits a different piece of the stack? Yeah. So first things first, you guys will see a much more detailed update from us on overall launch vehicle architecture. Kind of an unveiling of what the rocket looks like, how pointy it is, stuff like that. So stay tuned on that. But I'll give you, I'll give you a couple of breadcrumbs to that right now. First one is on the launch vehicle itself. We want to optimize for simplicity of architecture and speed to market. Those are kind of high level objectives. We don't have to build the Bugatti Veyron of rocket engines here. We want to build something that's much more the Honda Civic of rocket engines. And what that looks like it's down. Selecting each one of the core trades in the system to optimize for what can we build relatively quickly, that gets the job done and starts getting payloads to orbit. Because there's different paths we could take with this. The North Star for me is cut out the arts and crafts projects. Just focus on building data centers in space, building a rocket architecture that is purpose built for that and, and notably not focused on reusability at all, at least initially. Is that right? No, I think we're going to aim for reusability as quickly as possible. One of the things that we, we hope to do on the path to getting there is having economics that support making something that's viable with a non reusable version of it. Yeah. So that we're not waiting forever to start getting payloads up. We announced already. I imagine with some of the AI projects the AI compute is so valuable economically, so economically dense that non reusable payloads might actually make sense, at least in the short term. Of course, you want to save money over the long term. But when you think about the value of large scale compute in orbit, that could be potentially higher than some of the other payloads that are going up right now. So that sort of pulls forward your roadmap map. Yeah. If I understand you right, I think one of the things that is an interesting.

Direction very much. Okay, talk to me about the split between these three use cases that I see coding agents generally being used for. One is the ad hoc Go and do something, pull a bunch of information. I did this most recently looking around my neighborhood, looking at different lots and registrations of the government. Go pull a bunch of data, organize it into a spreadsheet, turn that spreadsheet into an infographic, work through all of that like you were a super powerful executive assistant who knew how to write Python and scrape the web to produce a single report. Basically deep research on steroids. Then the second bucket that I see a lot is I want a daily summary. I want you to do something for me that requires AI and LLMs to summarize information, put something together, something that runs continuously. And then the third is go build me a piece of software one time, deterministic software, and then I will interact with that software on a regular basis. So Ben Thompson just went on a vibe coding journey. He built a inventory management system for his house. It is a piece of deterministic software that runs on his local network. And then once he is interacting with it is pure deterministic software. There is no AI inference that's happening really. Maybe it calls out to an API. But those three buckets, is that a good way to think about the way people are using AI today? What's the break down and how do you see it evolving? I think it's a great way. And the last bucket you mentioned, the deterministic software, the fact that you can build a lot of internal tools and you see a lot of solopreneurs creating software zero to one on rapid. That's where most of the effort went in the last couple of years. Yeah, I think we're going to be seeing a shift very quickly away from that. Apps are not going to be disappearing overnight. They still play a role. SaaS will play a role in companies for a long, long time. But it's also true that some of the software can be replaced by agents accomplishing tasks end to end. And that's what I think if we. Yeah, and is that the FAT models like you used to go to an LLM and ask it to do two plus two and it would guess four, then it was able to write a little bit of Python and that's just expanding to the point where the actual LLM itself, the API for the model can do more and more capabilities and the agent harness will be able to do more and more as well. So you essentially instantiate whatever software you need ad hoc on the fly and you expect that to grow exactly right. LLMs have become much better along horizon tasks and you see them working like even for hours in a row. The additional layer that we put on top of them, the agent harnesses are such that you can also introduce verification criteria so that for example, you come up with a high level goal. Say you built an app on Rapid and then you want to optimize the conversion rate and you set a 5% as a goal. But guess what? You can have an agent doing that for you. You don't have to prompt it on the specifics to make that happen. It will connect to your app. The agent will decide to improve conversions. Maybe I need to change the copy of the website. Maybe I need different images, maybe I need a different pricing page. And then you keep measuring until it accomplishes the goal. That's what you've been hearing more and more being talked in the industry as loops. And I would call this like the post prompting era. We don't put much effort in prompting anymore. Even if you hear anthropic researchers and engineers explaining how to use Fable 5, the main insight is stop giving it prescriptions, stop giving it rules, just tell the model what you want to accomplish and then trust the process. That's the type of product I think we're going to be seeing more and more in the future. The goal Finding Jordy. Exactly. You mentioned.

Capabilities are expanding so much that naturally the scope we have as a company will just extend like crazy. So pitch me like it's three months from now, it's September and October and I'm non technical. Someone who has, you know, heard about the AI boom, but doesn't really know where to start. What are you instructing someone in a few months from now? How should they be interacting with replit and replit agents to do something? What's a good hello world on absolute steroids project for them to get started with? Think about it this way. For the last two years at least, we've been talking about agents all the time. But it's still extremely difficult for everyone to build their own agents. And in a sense, we've been lucky because a company like Rapid could grow so much because we pioneered the space. But now I want everyone to be capable of creating their own agents. And the reason is fairly simple if I can make a prediction. I do believe that sooner than later we're going to be seeing far fewer apps being used rather than agents. And the reason is we built UIs. We built computers in this way in the last decades because the only way we had to interact with them was keyboards and mouse and click and data input, which is very much error prone. The way you work instead is you talk to your colleagues, you discuss, you decide what to do, you express natural language or intent, and then you either delegate or you get the job done yourself. But guess what? Agents do exactly that. The more autonomous we make them, the more capable we make them, the more they're going to be able to complete tasks end to end. And I want everyone to be capable of building their own customized agents. So three months from today, if we chat again, I will be mostly talking about that and our product will be pushing that direction very much. Okay, talk to me about the split between these.

Going huge sedan going crazy colors, very bold marketing. And when you shift seven different things, you get a lot of visceral at this Fiat. Let's see this. There we go. What do you think about this? You picking one up? Oh, guys, you're not ripping one of these things around with the boys. Imagine having. Okay, so one of these is kind of silly, but if you're with your buddies and you each have one and you're rolling deep, that's pretty cool. Put a mansory kit on that. That's pretty cool. I don't know. I think we got a picture of a. There's a convertible version, I guess with doors. Can you imagine? Kids cannot imagine hanging out with my friends and us like caravanning these. It'd be. We look like such dweebs. I'm sorry, Fiat. You might say that. You might say that. Just wait until you fire up the V12 engine that you swap in that thing that'll be sitting on top of it. We got.

Hunting for known edited images to build the model. Very, very cool. Let's talk about Maggie's refuel. Speaking of cars that need to be refueled, if you got your Dolce Trelandry Manuale and you need to get a full tank of gas, you might stop by Maggie's refuel here in Los Angeles. A new high end gas station brand just opened in Los Angeles. The biggest bills itself as a high end convenience store brand. Planning to modernize and innovate the current gas station experience. Think auto Grill meets 711 Japan matcha, local croissants, premium CPG and yes, a soft serve cone all alongside a gas or EV fill up. Will they have white? Gotta jump in. It's not actually open yet. It's not open yet. It's not open yet. It's opening soon. This is gonna be their first location. If you've been in la, this location is incredible. It's an incredible historic structure. We actually don't know how to make gas stations like this. Yeah. If you go to the first image in that thing, you can see the sort of curved ceiling that looks very. I don't know, it looks nice. It also looks like it's a nightmare in the rain. Yes. Some people are saying this is just Buc ee's for California. Have you guys ever been to Buc ee's? I've never been to Bucky's. Buc ee's is an elite gas station. It's like mostly like south. South of the U.S. there's only like 20 of them, but they're like. There's like a wall of beef jerky. Every flavor. It's incredible. You guys gotta go next time. Okay. You're on the east coast, so it's just great selection they have. I mean, so. So there's like kind of like a restaurant because I have been to a buc EE's. Yeah. But I just went in and said, hey, where's the bathroom? Use the bathroom and left. I didn't get to. I didn't even. You didn't get the full. Everything inside of Buc EE's is trying to kill me. Okay. So I. I tend to avoid. But Maggie's is very cool. I actually invested in Maggie's with my friend Jonathan. And this was like almost a couple years ago at this point. So building a gas station chain is a lot harder than it sounds. But the idea. And Alex. John Rossi in the chat is sharing Alex's face. Family started Cantor's Deli, Very popular deli here in Los Angeles. So lots of lore in the family, but the idea and the frustration that I had had even prior to meeting Alex is like everything inside the average gas station is trying to kill me. Right. It's like almost end to end, wall to wall poison. And there's a lot of instances where it's fine poison, but not poison. There's the drink of kings. We're running the ab test. We're running the ab test, John. Okay. That's gonna be in a gas station soon. Huberman's ripping. It'll definitely. It'll be in Maggie's. But, yeah, the idea is like, okay, how much money would you spend if you were getting gas at a place where you could get a nice coffee or maybe some organic fruit? I do hate getting gas at a boring gas station. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. Probably stop by there. If I saw it, it'd be good. How are we doing on our guests? We're gonna be.

Totally normal but who knows and do I think it is going to other cars I hope I really hope so I mean just in general right like landscape of modern cars is pardon my language but it's apocalyptic like you guys ever go driving down the road Every car on the road is either gray, black, silver, toilet bowl white yeah with the number of cars that look like toilet bowls on the road is just exploding and it's you know it's depressing it kind of I feel like it's a weird commentary on on human society this day and age like why does everywhere need to drive the exact same ugly boxy car and hey we're we're having some connection issues can we flip you back to the production team we'll bring you back in a couple minutes does that sound good? Yeah thanks a lot we'll see you in just a few minutes Let me tell everyone about FIGMA agents meet the canvas your AI agents can now.

At least yet. Well, there's other Tesla announcements. The Tesla Model Y dual zone fridge, $600, fits in the sub trunk and has two separate compartments that can be fit set to different temperatures from 0 to 68 degrees Fahrenheit. You plug it into the outlet. I love this. I think it's so cool. There's like this gadget that fits into the other thing. They have like, they have the front trunk. No one's really doing anything with it. Why not throw a couple? Yeah. Not a lot of manufacturers are really willing to promote having 30 to 40 beers. Hitting the road and having 30 to 40 beers. I don't think these are beers in this image. What is Tesla went ollipop? I don't know. I think it's blood orange. I don't know which one this is. But they did put some ice cream. The ice cream looks pretty generic. I don't know if that's a known brand. There's also a mattress. Yeah, mattress. Cybertruck mattress. That's. I don't know. They've always had those mods. I've always thought their accessories are quite cool. I think it's difficult for other car manufacturers to do first party accessories because they have so many SKUs. Whereas when you're selling as many Model Y's as they are and as many vehicles that have that exact trunk configuration with that exact port, you can underwrite the mass manufacturing a lot easier than. Than if you're Kia or Hyundai and you have 25 different vehicles all with slightly different configurations. Well, where.

There was a team that figured out how to order pizza with imessage using artificial intelligence and people are not as impressed as they should be because the image is AI. Please press the order me pizza button and it is wired up to press the order pizza button. Yes. Doordash, sort of already created and artificial intelligence for having food delivered to you. There is a button and you can sort of reimagine the UI in a different way. Vibe code, a button that orders you the most recent thing or interfaces with a text message. Somewhat cool. I think the bull case for what Arlen is working on is that imessage is a more universal interface. Text is the universal interface in a future world where you know everything is done via voice or via an agent or via text stream. Having a centralized place and not having to use a bunch of different apps and have the best app at the right time. And this one's on discount, that one's not. And this one's your payments information saved. Having all of that happen below the fold is just another layer to the user experience in the modern era that it feels like it's on the way. You've been able to order an Uber with Siri for a decade, but no one does because it's not ready. It was not ready for primetime, but we are getting there to the point where this will happen. But it is a slow, slow rollout. The AI chat apps were on a dominant run for a long time. OpenAI at the top with ChatGPT. I think Gemini and Claude were sort of going back and forth from number two and three and you were lamenting, you were saying like, what's going on in the App Store? It's all. Yeah. This morning I was checking the App Store charts. Good indicator of interest. We have Kalshee at number one, Netflix game controller at number two, Peacock at number three, Fox one at number four. Let's give it up for Fox. Trump Accounts at number 5, ChatGPT at 6, Threads at 7. Let's give it up for Connor Hayes. Telemundo at number 8. Telemundo. Oh. Polymarket at number 9. Gemini Clark closing out the top 10. 11. Fubo 12, Claude 13. Depop D. Pop D Pop out of nowhere shopping. Google number 14. Okay. The fact that Google all over the place. Yeah. And then from there it's a bunch of a lot of real short drama Wave. All these short. There's a company called Vibe. Short AI comic dramas, bite sized comic dramas. Tyler, can you watch like a few hours of these and report back? Absolutely. Do not tomorrow. Absolutely. Do not. I'm genuinely curious. This app has come out of nowhere. Yeah. And we talked to the founder of True Short. Or is it Real Short? True Short is the American company. Real Short is the Chinese company. Correct. And he's True Short. He's working on True crime. AI generated short form video. Interesting to see where that's going. I mean, certainly demand for this stuff. The trough must be filled.

I also want more videos of peregrine falcons flying at 390 kilometers an hour. That is incredibly fast. You were giving me a little bit of shade about falcons last week and so I needed to put you in the falcon zone. Okay. The truth zone on the falcons. What is this video? This is a video of the fastest attack animal in the animal kingdom. Peregrine falcon content warning 390km hour. Also, they live all over America. Fantastic animal, beautiful creature. Crazy. Yeah. And you think that there's a business to be built around home defense peregrine falcons. Take me through your thesis. I did, I did. Yes. And Anduril for the aviation aviary world. Anduril meets falconry. Yes. Sort of an organic anderal for the home. Yes. Yeah. A lot of, you know, guard dogs are popular. Why not have peregrine falcon perched in the highest tree on your property, ready to go? I like this chat from Nicola. A falcon with a bicycle is the most efficient animal on the planet. I completely agree. This fits very well with the early idea from the show with bear security. Yes. Yeah. Bear. Private military contract domestication idea. Early on. I think it's probably easier to domesticate a falcon than. Than a bear. Many falcons are already, you know, domesticated falconry is a historic, historic technique. I just reached out to a local falconer. You did. To set up some time. Okay. I'm not, I'm not Even before the show. No, not for the show, but that would be cool. Wait, no, no, no, no. Before the show you did this. Yeah. The team had. The team had that video pulled up and I just thought, you know. Yes. Now the question is, can we bring back carrier pigeon? Yes. Because we send. Because if we. If John, Sunday morning, he's often reading an article. Yes. He'll text me, hey, you should read this. Yes. But what if he could send. What if he could just take the newspaper. He didn't have to go find the link because obviously he's reading on a physical copy. Yes. What if you could just hand it to a smart bird and have it fly it over to my house? Be way more convenient for me. I wouldn't need to be on my phone. It's the weekend. I don't want to be as. As online as during the weeks. And you don't have to be going. Getting on your phone trying to find the right article. Yeah. So I think there's something there. I think. I wonder. I know Mike Tyson was really into pigeons. I don't know if he got into carrier pigeons, but it does seem like it could have a huge boom. I feel like there's an Instagram account to be built around someone who gets really into using carrier pigeons for everything and lives some sort of, like, pastoral trad life and amasses millions of followers on the back of falconry and carrier pigeon home falcons. Yes, home falcons. It's good content for social media. Also.

Wait, is this, is this a real video? This? No, this is fake. No, this is good though. Costa, yes, Runs the fastest growing oil change only QL in the USA. He says for kicks I started using ChatGPT to give our employees huge muscles and social media posts we use. And finally last night an employee told me on Slack the customer said something about them not being as jacked in person. Look at this second picture here. This guy. If you look like this, you're not changing oil. You're going for the Arnold. You're going to the Arnold. This is so good. I like that. Max Sparrow's in here just tagging Pangram data. Is this the idea that he's always adding to the training corpus? Interesting that he just goes around on the timeline hunting for known edited images to build the model. Very, very cool. Let's talk about Maggie's refuel. Speaking of cool.

Some good news. Finally. Finally some good news. Circle K, the company won the lottery. Did you hear about this, Jordy? No way. It's true. Yeah. So there's a crazy story out of Arizona. They needed a win. They needed a win. Actually, they've been a fantastic partner to my company, Lucy, Shout out Circle K. But let's tell you about the Circle K winning the lottery. So there's a crazy story out of Arizona that's been brewing over the last six months. Back in February, a Circle K customer named Sun Chun Kim asked the cashier for $85 worth of $1 lottery tickets. So she shows up, she wants 85 tickets. But after all 85 were printed out, Kim found out that she only had 60 bucks on her, only $60. So the cashier gave her 60 tickets and left the remaining 25 tickets on the counter. The next morning, Circle K manager Robert Galitsa learned that the leftover tickets included the $13 million winning ticket. So he clocked out, took off his Circle K shirt, and bought the tickets from another Circle K employee. Being like, what? No one, no one's going to notice. So when Circle K, the company found out about the purchase, it ordered the ticket be held in its corporate office and filed a complaint against the manager who bought the tickets and the Arizona Lottery and claimed that it's right, that it. That Circle K the company is the rightful owner of the lottery ticket. As of a week ago, at least three people slash entities are claiming ownership of the, of the, of the ticket to the original buyer that didn't have the cash. Yes. The. The manager who's like, I don't care if I lose my job as long as I win the lottery. And Circle K is like, we really need to win. We really need, we need, like, we need a win right now. We need this. Yeah. So Galica, a Circle K employee, that Galica got to sign the back of the ticket. Not sure why he had her do all of this. And Circle K. Additionally, the judge presiding over the complaint has ordered that the woman who bought the tickets but couldn't pay for them soon, Chun Kim, be found and brought into court before making a decision on who gets it. So she's going to have to testify and explain her side to. To make sure that that's exactly what happened. Because this is just claims at this point. How did the local Circle K wind up with 25 lottery tickets? Who are you going with? I'm going with manager. I'm going with big Corporate. Big, big, Big. I'm going with the manager not because I think it's ethical, but I think that. I think that there's no way. I think it's unlikely that there is a rule at Circle k that says 100%. There's a rule that if you work at that company, you can't buy lottery tickets at all from your own store, obviously, because you have the machine right there. You can tamper with it. Okay, but they don't. But they don't control. That's probably line number one. Handbook. No, but. But it seems very unlikely that. That the Circle, like, it's. It's a machine that just prints tickets. Yes, it's like. Yes, but there's so many ways you could tamper with it. You're watching the news, you're printing the ticket at the right time. You have access. You refill the ticket. Oh, there's one. But you're saying the corporation can buy its own lottery t tickets? Yes. Why? But the manager can't. That seems also strange. Maybe. Maybe you got. I think I got a ride with the woman. You think she's owed it? The manager. But then. But then the strategy or the original buyer. But then you can just shift the odds in your favor by constantly going to circle phase of $100 of tickets. Oh, I only have 50 bucks. And then you're basically doubling your odds because you still have a claim on those original says. These clerks aren't super hackers, John. Just wait. Just wait. You get the right amount of. I think it's an. I think it's an edge case. I think ultimately the person that. That paid for the winning ticket wins. Who paid for the winning ticket? If it comes down. But the manager knew that the ticket won. He didn't have to put any money. We don't know that yet. No, no, no, no. He did. He did. So there were 25 tickets there. They went through that. Okay. If there's a rule. If there's a rule that managers cannot buy lottery tickets at their own store, then you're correct. But if there's no rule that explicitly I, you know, basically spells that out. I think he might. He might. He might be golden. He might be golden. You think so? I don't know. Let me tell you about Shopify. Lottery is the commerce platform that grows with your business and lets you sell in seconds online, in store, on mobile, on social, on marketplaces, and now with agents and.

Follow the video game industry. Loser alert. Loser alert, alert. But the thing that you get excited about with Xbox is Modern Warfare 2 Rust and 1v1ing your best friends. Yes, but you buy in the secondary market. That's not really printing any pennies. They're not printing on me income statement. It's rough over there. Let me tell you about MongoDB. What's the only thing faster than the AI market? Your business on MongoDB? Don't just build AI, own the data platform that powers. If you've done enough. Forza Horizon 5, Forza Horizon 6. You've burned out on your gaming simulator with your Xbox. You gotta get over to Ferrari and pick up a Dolce Trelandri. Manuel, let's pull up this video. The 12 cylindri is the first car with a gated manual shifter to come out of Maranello since 2012. Have you noticed that they said shifter, not transmission? Yeah, shifter. That's what people wanted, right? We'll debate it. Let's play this video. And a shifter. It's a six. Let's see. Hell is frozen over, Pigs can fly. And Ferrari is building a new car with a manual transmission. This is the 12 cylindri manual. As you can see, it's a manual gearbox in a Ferrari. And what it really is is a Mode of the 8 speed speed DCT. But Ferrari has added a clutch pedal and a shifter. It's a six speed shifter. When you switch to manual mode, the shift knob turns amber in color. But you can also leave it in automatic. Unlike the other 12C lingeries, there's no paddle shifters, which you'll notice there's. If you want manual mode, you push the clutch in. Provided you're going under 62 miles an hour, it'll go into manual mode and then you can start driving. They tell us you can stall it. So if you are too quick with the clutch, too quick with releasing the clutch, if you try to start it in second or third gear, you pop the clut. You'll stall it. If you push the clutch in, you can rev it to the 9,500rpm redline and do a massive clutch drop. It does have some safeguards. If you try to do, you know, a six to one shift or some shift that isn't allowable, it won't let you do it. Ferrari put a ton of effort into the shift feel. So you can sort of, as you move from the center plane, there is a little bit of resistance to sort of simulate the synchronizers meshing and Then it sort of falls into gear. So it feels very much like a manual gearbox in a Ferrari has always felt, provided that gearbox is warmed up. As you can see, the gated shifter is here. The clicks are very much here. Although the DCT is an eight speed, you only get six speeds with transmission, which lowers the top speed from over 200 miles an hour. I think 211 miles an hour in seventh gear at redline to sixth gear, which is at the 9,500 rpm red line, to 196 miles an hour. So if you want to go just that little bit faster for top speed, you got to go switching in the automatic mode. The manual goes on sale at the beginning of next year, at the beginning of 2027. Ferrari has said that the price will be right around half a million dollars for starters. I'm sure most of them will be optioned out with lots of goodies and cost a lot more. They're building 1,499 of them, and I would imagine they're already spoken for. But this sort of does give us a look that Ferrari sees the value in the manual transmission. They love the connection of it. Their customers have been asking for it. They didn't really have a manual transmission to put in the car. But with this solution, this essentially a manual mode with a shifter and a clutch, they have shown us that it is possible to take a dual clutch and make the manual experience happen for buyers. So I'm hoping this trickles down into the rest of the lineup. Okay. Manual by wire. They're trying to answer every. They don't make them like they used to. Complaint. How does it land with you? Do you think this checks the box? Does this count as a manual Ferrari? Are they giving their manual fans what they want or is this a poor simulacrum of what it means to have three pedals? I think it's an obvious step in the right direction. I think a lot of people will be satisfied with this. I don't know. I think this checks enough of. Purists are in shambles. I'm in shamble over the spec that they use in that example. Why? I just think it looks terrible. It does look very base back. Yeah. But I think this is a fantastic. TJ Parker does not like it. He says this is far more embarrassing than the Luce Faceplant. And people are saying, wow, that's bad. As long as it's fun, who cares? TJ Parker says he cares. It's corny, but Koenigsegg, approved by the New Bugatti CEO. Seems look, when I see this, I think that they're gonna sell at least 1499luce because you have to imagine if you want, they claim they're not doing. They claim they're not doing it, then you're going to need to buy a Luce. They claim they're not doing it. They obviously will be doing it. You think so? These are never things that are, these are never rules that are written down anywhere, but they are understood. The details are hilarious and kind of brilliant. Listen to this. You can skip gears, heel, toe, downshift, and even stall the car if you mess up the clutch. But the system will also stop you from doing something truly stupid like over revving the engine or, or money shifting the car into the wrong gear. If you're not familiar with the money shift, that's where you shift. You skip a gear too much and it grinds the gears and you have to pay for to fix your engine, which costs a lot of money, especially in a 12 cylinder Ferrari. It's slower if you shift it yourself and you need automatic mode to hit the full 211 mile per hour top speed. But that's basically the whole point. Ferrari customers apparently told the company that they were willing to trade performance for the old school physical joy of driving a gated manual. Yeah, ultimately I like that they're partially listening to customers. It seems they're not necessarily fully listening to customers because I don't know any of Ferrari's, you know, out of the handful of Ferrari's top customers that I know. Yeah, I don't know any that were like, yeah, give me a fly by wire, like gated man, you know, gated manual. Yeah, they were not asking for that, but they were asking for the experience. They were asking for a knob that you can put your hand on three pedals. They want the third pedal. I am thinking of the Hyundai Ioniq 5N. Are you familiar with this vehicle? You've told me all about it. So the Hyundai Ioniq 5N is a, an electric hatchback essentially. But the gentleman who runs Hyundai's N division formerly ran BMW's M division. What's the letter that comes after M? It's N. So he went over to Hyundai and said, give me a bunch of your cars and I will create M versions, performance versions of these cars. Now Hyundai is funny because it's like a family car company for the most part. Not the same muscle car, German performance, ultimate driving machine base to work with like at BMW. But that individual has done a Fantastic job. Adding some drama to what it feels like to drive an electric Hyundai. Specifically with the Hyundai Ioniq 5N. It has something like 600 horsepower. Very quick on the track because of the position of the battery. It stays very planted even though it is a heavy vehicle. So it is good on the track in automatic mode. But they added paddle shifters and a simulated dual clutch transmission. LARP mode. And it pipes in fake noise from a fake engine. And you can redline it virtually. And it's almost like, can you roll it physically? You can physically roll it if you get really crazy, I'm sure. But it's a very interesting. It's very interesting because it has all the hallmarks of something that would be hated by the car community. But in fact, when I watched a lot of reviewers, a lot of car fans drive it, they said, yeah, after a couple laps on the track, it just felt like a lot of fun. And it was just fun. And also at the price point, you're getting the performance of a 2 to $300,000 car, probably 600 horsepower. It feels like a manual and you can really throw it around, drift it and do all sorts of fun stuff with a much lower entry price. And so I was surprised that we didn't see that technology quickly come to the Taycan and other electric sort of sports cars. I think it will eventually. I think it takes time. Also, the sound choice was interesting. They used. They used the exhaust from another Hyundai instead of like licensing something more brawny or powerful or more exciting. But there's clearly something there that I don't. I don't know if the car's selling very well, but it was at least satisfying to the critical eye of Matt Farah, which was interesting. So, yeah, it's funny because our dear friend tj, no matter what Ferrari does, he just hates it. He's just. I haven't. I haven't seen. There has not been a launch. He was sort of pro Luce. He was relative. But he says this is far more embarrassing than the Luche. Yeah. You're saying that's a positive stance. He took a. He took a heretical stance on the Luche. I'm actually the Ferrari that I'm most excited about is that is the street legal version of the 296 challenge. I think that's going to be a hit because that's obviously it's going to be paddles, sure, but internal combustion engine. They're ditching all the hybrid stuff. They should have a version, you know, the really old Model T, like the really Old cars. We had to crank them to start from the front. They should have a virtual version of that. So it's like a fully electric car, 2000 horsepower, 400 mile range, but you can get out a crank from the back of the TR trunk and crank it to start it. That would be very fun. Something like that. But anyways, step in the right direction. Give them some credit. They are partially listening to their customers. I think between the luce and the 12C manual, they're solving their emissions problems. Headed in the right direction. And I do think that the Luce will have been a big enough wake up call because it's something that no one can defend. Okay, the Luce, famously low slung, famously small windows. Should they do a version with huge square windows like this old Land Rover? Do you see this? Was just noticing how bad this has gotten. One of the primary appeals of retro cars is the big old square windows. Are you a fan of this? Is this a discovery? I don't know which one this is, but I was watching an old 90s. Is that not a range? I don't know. I was watching an old 90s. Like, okay, pull up the car there. Comedy or something. Which one? If you click in. Whoa, that is so ridiculous. Why are we building cars where the window sills are at chin level? Why is greenhouse. Why is the greenhouse less than a third of the height of the vehicle? Oh, the greenhouse is the top. Interesting. I've never heard that term. Why is the dot.